IMVUPay.com was a sort of IMVU credit stock market which fluctuated. You could watch the market, buy and sell credits directly into the system and use the market to gain the most from your credit sales or use it to get the best purchase deal. It was a great idea that flopped horribly when suddenly people found themselves paying for a service they weren't being provided with. At this point, it is estimated that IMVUPay owes members of the IMVU comminity hundreds of thousands in dollars for credits sold and purchased credits never received.
It's a locked thread and just under a year old, but if you need a refresher on this topic, you can check it out Here in the forums.
My interest in this topic was revived today when the question rose in the CCGen forums "Any IMVUPay News?" Well I had long since given up on there being any, but a little research and with the help of the community, I landed on some significant pieces of information.
For starters, it looks like IMVUPay.com no longer exists. They closed their doors and left the following message:
"NEWS!! PLEASE READ!
We regret to inform our wonderful members that IMVUPay will be shutting down. Things have been extremely hard pressed on our small team to keep this site functioning with little to no budget and we would like to personally apologize to our users for any misunderstandings and/or inadequate service you have received.
We do have some exciting news for you though: IMVUPay has been purchased! We have been told that they will be incorporating our clients to their new website, which is very user-friendly, and all the old accounts will be reconciled. We hope this will help to clear up any issues we may have had in the past. Thank you for all of your loyalty to us, we hope you will show the same level of energy to the new management.
Best Wishes,
Phil + Chad
PS: Please remember to keep checking here for updates."
Too bad whoever supposedly purchased IMVUPay, missed the memo because its clients are still without payment. No one's accounts have been incorporated anywhere and hundreds of people are still filing complaints with the BBB and Paypal in hopes of getting their money. Some people are owed several thousand dollars.
Here are ex-IMVUPay customer's stories about their run-around dealings with the company:
Report: #418069 @ RipOffReport.com
Report: #437766 @ RipOffReport.com
The most disturbing news? IMVUPay's Exium has been allowed to re-register as a Credit Reseller under the name IMVU Credits Express or IMVUCE. Exium (Phil) was the creator of IMVUPay while the above signed "Chad" did the coding. for it.
I cannot believe IMVU allowed a person involved in such fraud to not only continue as a member of the community, but has allowed them the chance to defraud us again. That is a slap in the face of the people still waiting to get paid and and a big middle finger to the community.
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I agree. They should not be allowed to re-register as resellers. Either IMVU doesn't care, stupid, or both.
I have tried my best to steer clear from the whole IMVY Pay subject but after hearing what had happened, I cant help telling myself I KNEW this was going to happen, and remember at one point telling Chat that this wont go so well...do I get listened to? Nah..instead..I get to say "I told you so..."
I'm quite pissed that IMVU allows this guy to continue making money in IMVU. He owes people tens of thousands of dollars. I'm not personally affected, as I knew he was a slimeball for years, but lots of people I know got ripped off by him.
It's pretty sad that he takes a coward's way out and tries to blame his programmer for everything.
I also have a hard time believing someone bought IMVUPay, and accepted the debt. Who would buy a company/site that is so deep in debt due to the fact that it's design is completely flawed, and think they can turn a profit with it as well as pay everyone back???
Sikk, I barely got any money out of sellign imvupay. Most of my compensation was the fact that I had all monetary debts erased from my history. The new company was going to handle the debt. You are missing the big picture. IMVUPay's new system wasn't flawed, by the time 2.0 came around we were actually back on track, it was just slower than we had planned for. But for the new company who bought the assets including the imvupay2 code, they can create an exchange for every virtual world in the world. That system is worth in the tens of thousands of dollars alone, which is part of the value traded during the contract. I hope this makes sense. Anyway, continue having a hard time believing if you wish, but I'm giving you facts. =)
I just want people to get paid the money they're owed, eXium. A lot more people got hurt in this than just you. Sorry if I'm harsh, I'm just honest. I'll continue to keep my eyes peeled for the "new owners" all over the internet.
The problem with your so called facts eXium is, as you said you were slowly becoming back on tract, didn't exactly SHOW you were doing so. You left your customers hanging when you closed IMVUPay.com's doors and allowed some other company to purchase it. To me, you were done dealing with a responsibility you couldn't handle so laid it in someone elses lap, some good buisness YOU were running. I sure hope this company that bought your website can fix what YOU screwed up eXium, and I sure hope you learned from your mistakes, because if not, you will end up doing the same thing in IMVUCE.com that you did in IMVUPay.com
Wait, Phil, you claim IMVUpay's system was worth "Thousands of dollars", would you mind explaining that in a bit more detail? Like, was it legally trademarked/patented, or whatnot? Because from my knowledge of how "ideas" on the internet work, anyone could have just observed IMVUpay's system and programmed their own version of it, completely free of charge. Many people have made legal use of World of Warcraft's combat system, or Gaia Online's paperdoll avatar forum system, without paying a dime to the companies who originated these systems.
They still owe me monney. Exium in his imvuce group (http://imvu.com/groups/group/Credits/) made a post called "IMVUPay Update" he said to me "Spy, yell at Depthwire Corporation, they are in charge of imvupay now. They bought 100% of the company's assets, and i am no longer apart of it at all." I spend a lot of time to look for informations about Depthwire corporation...
I tryed to email them but the mail came back (Delivery Status Notification Delay)
They owe like 18 domain names all deleted or closed...
imvupay.com (64.34.170.47)
imvupay.net (64.34.170.47)
imvuforum.com (69.89.31.94)
imvuads.com (69.89.31.94)
imvuresellers.com (69.89.31.94)
imvu.org (66.113.104.18)
imvucredit.com (66.113.104.18)
depthwire.com (66.113.104.18)
gunn.depthwire.com/(66.113.104.18)
gmebx.com
gimmebux.com
VWXN.com (64.34.170.47)
vwxapp.com (66.113.104.18)
...
But i saw that google cached one of them :
gmebux.com
http://74.125.153.132/search?q=cache:0ewaAyovbRoJ:www.gmebx.com/+www.gmebx.com&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=&client=
Look at it and then go at the bottom of the page "Design by
aShadow LLC"
Ok let's look at aShadow website now ...
http://www.ashadow.com/about.php
The 3rd picture look familiar "Chad Thomas"?
Chad Thomas the associate of Exium and coder of imvupay...
www.zecono.com one of the Exium site have the same ip (69.89.31.94) than some of the depthwire sites :
imvuforum.com (69.89.31.94)
imvuads.com (69.89.31.94)
imvuresellers.com (69.89.31.94)
Did he sold them too ???
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